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PrimalSeal
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Post subject: Most vaulable Asset. Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:40 am |
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So, what do you think?
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NDS
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:43 am |
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I think our most important asset is the human brain. It's what makes us the most intelligent, capable and successful animal on the planet. We are alone in having a presence in every available ecological niche.
Only humans could be dropped anywhere on the planet and figure out how to survive. Now for choice of tool, I'd go with knife since that (with the knowledge alluded to above) will allow you to acquire most of the rest of the list.
This question should elicit some good responses.
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Fenix
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:35 am |
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I picked water since it's the ONLY thing on the list that you can't create on your own (except a firearm obviously, but there are other alternatives  ) This ought to be interesting indeed.
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GlockMan
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:39 pm |
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I voted for the gun as with it you can acquire everything else on the list (Dark side of G-Man speaking) and then you can protect what stores and gear you have, without it your a victim waiting to happen.
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NDS
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:11 pm |
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Planning on a little 'Urban Survival' GMan? Planning on owning your own little Barter Town? Perhaps Farnham's Freehold is more your style? Share your plans--I may wish to subscribe to your newsletter...
GlockMan wrote: I voted for the gun as with it you can acquire everything else on the list (Dark side of G-Man speaking) and then you can protect what stores and gear you have, without it your a victim waiting to happen.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:58 am |
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Food and water... then everything else. The primary barter good after TEOTWAWKI: ammo.
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Drilln
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:46 pm |
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In a primary rural area, all my gear is of equal importance, as there may not be may opportunities to aquire them anew. At least short term. If I lived in a urban enviroment, things might be differnt
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vallen
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:30 pm |
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WATER. You can't dig a well with a bullet.
Sure, the other things are important, but without water you definitely die.
Of Course I'd want a gun, but water is the stuff of life. You can live w/out food for a few days. No water and your brain starts to turn into mush. If you have gun and no water, you are totally screwed (at least you can run and hide if you have to) But you gotta have H2O.
That was the poll, MOST Valuable.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:07 pm |
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Were are we am I at home Or lost in the woods. Am I alone in the dersert. Here in Kansas if SHTF A gun would be most important as water is plentifull along with edible plants and killing game is easy with a gun and a lot more dificult with a jug for carrying water.
I would say it would most depend on ones location.
Like I said here I would take the gun.
Mabey TX, or AZ I would be beggin for water but I do not know that area.
I could collect and build everthing else by hand.
GUN all the way. At least for my location
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andrew241
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:01 pm |
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Its all pretty important to me. But it is true what Glockman said lol.
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Fenix
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:10 am |
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andrew241 wrote: Its all pretty important to me. But it is true what Glockman said lol.
don't you mean dark glockman?
I still have to say water is important, but if it was readily available gun would be next, for the obvious reasons.
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robertgreen
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:23 am |
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Drilln wrote: In a primary rural area, all my gear is of equal importance, as there may not be may opportunities to aquire them anew. At least short term. If I lived in a urban enviroment, things might be differnt
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+1
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:34 pm |
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I agree with GlockMan - a gun. If you have a weapon you can take what you need and keep others from taking from you. Sad fact, but true. 
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billybybose
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:07 am |
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I'm with drilln.when shtf its best to already have what you need.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:10 pm |
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RU Krazy wrote: GlockMan wrote: I voted for the gun as with it you can acquire everything else on the list (Dark side of G-Man speaking) and then you can protect what stores and gear you have, without it your a victim waiting to happen. Why is it that any time you hand someone a gun they think they are invincible? Often the domination of the well armed is in their own minds. How many War Lords have been found with their throats cut by some "pretty young thing" they thought was scared to death or silly in love with them. Looking back through history there were situations where men sent their wives/daughters to a "strongman" with the express purpose of killing them in their sleep. In one instance in the Bible a woman killed a warrior by driving a tent peg through his head as he slept. Sometimes those "Victims" are skilled predators, and your "customers" are doing recon. In every situation there is a rule of threes. You can die in: Three minutes without air Three hours without shelter Three days without water Three weeks without food Look at the urban homeless today. They are living what we fear. Their first concern is shelter. Get out of the elements, out of sight, out of mind, out of the firing line. Build yourself a nest. Then you find something to drink, then something to eat. Where's your "nest"? The one with the most skills wins. I want my Gerber multi-tool. Using that I can have a combat shiv made in two hours. I'll have a zipgun by dark. At nightfall I'll be out hunting in the dark, waiting to hear you scream when that girl cuts your throat.
Only if you let it happen. A gun doesn't make one invincanle but it does give one an edge.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:42 pm |
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Three minutes without air
Well I have seen some live up to 5 minutes but for the most I agree
Three hours without shelter
I have seen folks live in the wilderness for a week without shelter and servive depends on the climate and weather
Three days without water
I have heard of folks shipwrecked go a week without water and survive
Three weeks without food
I have heard of folks living longer then 3 weeks without food and still are with us My father was 5 weeks without ANY food during WW2 his group was surrounded by Japs and nothing airdropped was getting in they finally was relievd after 5 weeks by the rest of his Battalion and he had some spinich they had [ he hated spinich by the way but said that was the best food he'd ever had]
And long as you keep your wits about you you can survive a lot longer then most folks figure on Your mind is the MOST important thing you can have to survive
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PrimalSeal
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:51 pm |
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I think alot of that is just the Average that someone somewhere in a climate controlled, fully catered labratory made up because it sounds good. Like you said shooter, 90% of it depends on climate and conditions, the other 10% is what your mental discpline and preparation is going to allow for. In a survival situation it all depends on how easy you give up. Mental toughness can't be bought for any price.
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andrew241
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:49 pm |
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The mind can do wonders. If you think negative then you got something coming to you. In a survuval situation you have to stay positive and know in your mind you will be alright.
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PrimalSeal
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:12 pm |
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Distraction is one of your worst enemies in this type of a situation. You have to have a clearly defined chain of command if you have others with you. For example, if you are in a situation where you have your entire family with you, your wife and children etc have to be able to follow orders to the letter without delay. It's definately a team effort and if one person doesn't pull their weight, you won't survive.
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ClearFire
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:40 pm |
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Guns don't grow on trees, everything else can be found, fabricated, or acquired..
gman: i agree with you, and if SHTF it will be all of our dark sides against all of their dark sides..
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